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    Will the recent Chevron Deference decision issued by SCOTUS (Supreme Court Of The United States) have any effect on the decades of EPA rule making?

    According to the Cornell Law School: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/chevron_deference

    "Chevron was one of the most important principles in administrative law for 40 years. In June of 2024, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the Chevron doctrine in Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo stating: “The Administrative Procedure Act requires courts to exercise their independent judgment in deciding whether an agency has acted within its statutory authority, and courts may not defer to an agency interpretation of the law simply because a statute is ambiguous; Chevron is overruled.”
    To simplify... Those who believe in more government power will excoriate the decision. Those who believe in small government applaud the decision. This is because it puts a hedge around executive agency power to regulate by requiring that agency to base any current or new regulations or rule-making on a correct interpretation of law (bill passed by Congress and signed into law by the President).

    Since 1984, federal agencies have taken an increasingly broad interpretation of federal law while making new rules and regulations - to a point where many new agency rules and regulations are far-far outside of the original intent of any actual law passed by the Congress/President. It had reached a point where justification for a new rule or regulation was based on that agency's own decisions and rule making (or ideology) - not on the law. As a result of the Supreme Court's decision, all federal agencies are affected and bound to the SCOTUS decision. The agencies are bound to a correct interpretation of actual law.

    Congress had allowed this problem to grow because it made their life easier. Their workload was lightened and they wouldn't be held accountable to voters for unpopular rules and regulations. Unfortunately, the monster grew while in the dark... but the Supreme Court recognized the danger.

    So, will the EPA's rules/regulations regarding diesel emissions standards be affected? Good question, but I suspect it'll take a while to sort it all out in the courts. The federal government will not give up power easily. This Supreme Court ruling is a step back from the edge of the abuse of power. As it stands right now, it's too soon to know if we'll be able to "delete" the restrictive diesel emissions components (DPF, DEF, etc). Some of this could depend on how willing diesel pickup owners are to control smoke and emissions without a government mandate.

    By the way... this also affects the ATF, IRS, FCC, FEC, FAA, ad infinitum... Why did we not know this a long time ago?....

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    For whatever it's worth
    Getting rid of the harmful add on's .....EGR and the related components is a good idea...
    I have seen the inside of the 6.7 Cummins after only a few years of EGR pouring soot into the engine.
    It literally destroys the engine....

    Rolling coal on the highway is not needed....
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    I don't see much, if any, change with EPA (as well as most other alphabet agencies) policy and regs. The climate change crowd is just too large and well funded, and backed by nearly every popular celebrity. The climate scientist majority (whomever they are, or claim to be) haven't been right about anything for a century. They claim they're right, this time. California has been bypassing The Constitution for decades, with little to no consequence. Other states follow the CA model, and call it as such. California gets knocked back by SCOTUS and the appellate courts all the time. The state either works around it to another solution, or straight up thumbs their nose at them. At any rate, by the time an issue gets run through the judicial system, damage is done, and is almost always irreversible. Those of you who think democracy needs to be protected need to have a closer look at what absolute democracy looks like in CA. 20+ years ago, the state operated with a budget surplus. Now, the state's deficit is more than the entire budgets of more than half the states. As someone wisely said, democracy works wonderfully, until you run out of other people's money. Democracy can also be described as 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. I'm sure most of you have heard these before, but real truth can't be repeated enough. History is coming back around, and The Republic is in grave danger.

    Even if the EPA (and more specifically CARB) is reined in, it wouldn't be long before they regain control with draconian regulation. There are enough freedom fighters and sovereign citizens (the fake, false flags, AKA: Idiots) to screw it up for everyone else. Rolling coal (or whatever categorical extreme) because you can, is the wrong reason for anything. I do many things "because I can", and do not object to most people who do, but I/they don't post it on YouTube, or draw attention in any other way.
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    The federal agencies won't willingly surrender the power they've accumulated. The incremental surrendering of power will come at the judicial bench. With the overturning of "Chevron Deference" by the Supreme Court, lower courts will now require federal agencies to prove the connection between their "rule" and existing law.

    "Rules" passed by a federal agency (ATF for example), like those aimed at limiting AR-15 rifles and accessories are likely unconstitutional, because those rules are not supported by existing law. If those weapons or features are deemed bad for society, Congress should pass a new clearly worded bill banning those items, and the President should sign it into law. This way, the citizens can hold their representative accountable. We are a representative democracy.

    I learned recently that the EPA was not created by Congress, yet it has extraordinary power over the lives of all US citizens. Just one of thousands of examples, the year 2035 is the current EPA schedule for a 50+ mpg federal mandate for all new light-duty cars/trucks. This will essentially force everyone into an EV. So, here's a federal agency that was never created by our representative government, yet it creates rules that have the full authority and weight of law.

    President Nixon signed Reorganization Plan No. 3 calling for the establishment of EPA in July 1970.

    Administrator Ruckelshaus was confirmed by the Senate on December 2, 1970, which is the traditional date we use as the birth of the agency.

    Two days after his confirmation, on December 4, Ruckelshaus took the oath of office and the initial organization of the agency was drawn up in EPA Order 1110.2.

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