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SaintC
12-09-2003, 22:29
Thought I would relay a little story of my visit to the mechanic.

A couple of years ago (pre-diesel page member), I was having an electrical problem with my truck. On two instances, once stone cold, and once after a 10 minute stop, the truck would have NO POWER. When I say no power, I mean there is no electrical power to anything....nothing worked.

The first time this happened, I had to get towed home. When the tow truck dropped my truck off the bed, the jolt kicked the electrical back on. It then worked for a while with no problems. Then, dead in the drive way. I messed with this and that, and could not figure it out.

So, I took my truck to a local shop that swore they were diesel specialists. I figured they could fix the electrical problem, and also replace those little fuel return lines, since mine were about 20 years old, cracked, and leaking a bit.

When the tow truck dropped my truck off, guess what? Yep, the electrical kicked back on. I explained the situation, and $540 dollars later, my return lines were replaced, the fuel heater, and not much else. They said that although the electrical did not act up on them, they fixed what they believed to be the problem...loose battery connection.

Boy this is getting long....

They did NOT fix the electrical problem...I joined here, and through alot of help, we tracked down the problem to the solenoid.

Cut to now....I have a fuel leak. Investigating where the leak is coming from, the fuel is coming from the driver side exhaust pipe, where it connects to the header????????? How can this be? I cannot see any fuel leaking from above that canister that is there. The canister is called the EFE Actuator, which is supposed to help with the rapid heating of the engine by restricting the exhaust while the engine is cold. As it turns out, the fuel is leaking between the two half shells of the canister.

Further investigation.....it seems that those wonderful mechanics who could not find nor fix my electrical problem, also routed the last fuel return line (one that gets capped) and plugged it into the vacuum nipple of the canister. It just took this long for the canister to give up, and leak the fuel. I also found the vacuum line that was supposed to be plugged into the canister, just hanging there along side the engine.

I do not know if a hot exhaust can set off diesel fuel, but luckily, the leak went straight to the ground without touching the exhaust pipe.

There should be a thread called "Tales from a visit to the mechanic"

CleviteKid
12-10-2003, 06:42
Moral of the story:

God Bless TheDieselPage.com for helping us all learn enough to maintain our own trucks.

Dr. Lee http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/xmas/gespann.gif

britannic
12-10-2003, 07:17
Unbelievable! BTW, although diesel has a low flash point, it can definitely ignite and it'll burn longer and hotter than gasoline, so I'm glad you're safe!

cschneider
12-10-2003, 22:06
I agree with Britannic but I will add in some anecdotal evidence of my own to the contrary. I had a similar "diesel shop" install a new pump and injectors some years ago. I drove the car for some time but had always smelled fuel after stopping the engine after a long drive. The #8 injector fitting was leaking a nice stream of fuel straight onto the Banks exhaust pipe. I never had a fire or anything close to my knowledge only a couple thousand miles of extra smoke and fumes.

arveetek
12-12-2003, 06:56
Hey Richard! Where ya been?

That's scary! Apparently those "mechanics" had never worked on a 6.2L before! Anyone who has ever replaced the return lines before should know that the back injector nipples on each bank should be capped!

Did you ever get those running boards installed?

Casey

SaintC
12-12-2003, 23:53
Well, hey there Casey,

Last we spoke, you got hitched, and a new house. Betcha the hitched part is going great, but the house part sounded like a lot of hours. How are they both going?

I ran into some mounting problems with the boards. I picked up some brackets recently, but got sidetracted by RV needing new rod and main bearings. I should be finishing that up shortly, then I can try the new mounts. Also, I am mounting the shorter ones on the RV. When I get pics, I will post them.

Saw your Ford...how do you like it? My collective experience with Ford has been so bad, I can never trust one again. That's what I get for driving fords from the 70's and 80's. Supposedly, the 90's and up are supposed to better made, but the bite marks still flare up :eek:

blazer84
12-14-2003, 10:10
I just had this happen - no electrical at all - by the time the tow truck arrived, and we poked around under the hood - I notice the dome light was on again. . . and it fired up again. I was going to take it to my mechanic Monday (and he had already on the phone diagnosed fuseable link at starter). So what solenoid exactly was it that you replaced??
-Eric


Originally posted by SaintC:
Thought I would relay a little story of my visit to the mechanic.

A couple of years ago (pre-diesel page member), I was having an electrical problem with my truck. On two instances, once stone cold, and once after a 10 minute stop, the truck would have NO POWER. When I say no power, I mean there is no electrical power to anything....nothing worked.
They did NOT fix the electrical problem...I joined here, and through alot of help, we tracked down the problem to the solenoid.
There should be a thread called "Tales from a visit to the mechanic"

SaintC
12-14-2003, 15:23
The starter solenoid. All the power goes through there. I dropped the starter, (I actually took the whole thing apart, cleaned it up, polished the armature and brushes) and installed a kragen $11 solenoid.

The old solenoid was charred INSIDE. The rear section actually started to crumble when I was taking it apart.

If your starter solenoid is over ten years old, replace it anyway. Make sure you clean up the electrical contacts really well. Also, after assembly, spray with that battery stuff to protect the contacts. Be sure when you install the wires, that they do not contact the heat shield. Some posted that earlier, and they went through all kinds of bad news over it.

arveetek
12-15-2003, 13:29
Hey Richard!

Yep, I've been married for nearly 7 months now, and the house is almost finished! In fact, I promised my beautiful bride that I would finish it by Christmas...this will be most of her Christmas gift. All I've got left is some trim, and a spare bathroom to finish. I think I can make it.

The Ford's doing great. Makes a great work truck. I'm a little disappointed in the fuel mileage. The best I get now with the heavily loaded truck is 12.5 mpg. Mostly I get between 10.5 to 11.5 mpg. Of course, this is a really heavy truck now. I need to get it weighed to see how much it really is. It runs great, though. I love the power! I'm just used to the 19 mpg my old 6.2L will give me! Heck, the worst mileage it ever got with the foot to the floor was 12!

The only thing I've had to do to the Ford is replace the glow plug relay.....a real pain to get to on this E350 chassis. Otherwise it's been running fine with no problems since 9/5/03.

Later!

Casey

SaintC
12-18-2003, 01:17
Boy Casey, I do not know how you do it. You run your own business, and yet still have time to refurbish a house.

I am having it rough trying to find the time to get a bunch of needed things done around this homestead. Now, I am having mechanical difficulties as well.

Everything just takes up so much time. It keeps slipping away, and I cannot seem to hold on to any of it. This year has gone by in a blink. The older I get, it seems the busier I get. And as we all know, when you are busy, time flies.

I managed to do one thing right, though. I bought my wife something that she has deserved since we met. She never liked the old vehicles I bought, but she always tolerated them....amongst many other things she tolerates from me as well. I bought her a mint condition 1990 Mercedes Benz 300 TE. (sorry, not diesel) This car is just perfect. Extremely well kept, drives like a dream...I made her very happy. Yes, it is 13 years old, but it does not look it, nor drive like it. Just a wonderful machine. I love driving it, and more importantly, she loves it. We call it, "Mommies Mercedes". That is how it is always referred.

Glad the Ford is treating you well. About mileage....you were just spoiled. My 84 C10 has always gotten about 14 mpg empty, on the highway, and a little less in the city.

Talk to you later.

Richard