Climate Change - NY Times Article

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Hacked E-Mail Is New Fodder for Climate Dispute


Hundreds of private e-mail messages and documents hacked from a computer server at a British university are causing a stir among global warming skeptics, who say they show that climate scientists conspired to overstate the case for a human influence on climate change.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html

[Mark Rinker]

Update:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34392959/ns/us_news-environment/?GT1=43001

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Yes, but... They emails do in-fact show that the IPCC community worked to prevent PhD climate scientists who disagreed with the anthropogenic theory from being published or peer reviewed. 30,000 scientists world-wide disagree, and 900 of these are PhDs. The emails do show a frustration among the IPCC at how the earth has cooled and that temperatures aren't tracking their computer models. The emails do show that important longterm data has been destroyed or fudged to support the IPCC's case.

The debate is “over” and the science is “settled”, but someone forgot to tell Mother Nature...


Days without sunspots-

Current Stretch: 16 days
2009 total: 259 days (76%)
Since 2004: 770 days
Typical Solar Min: 485 days
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml

The Maunder Minimum
Early records of sunspots indicate that the Sun went through a period of inactivity in the late 17th century. Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715. Although the observations were not as extensive as in later years, the Sun was in fact well observed during this time and this lack of sunspots is well documented. This period of solar inactivity also corresponds to a climatic period called the "Little Ice Age" when rivers that are normally ice-free froze and snow fields remained year-round at lower altitudes. There is evidence that the Sun has had similar periods of inactivity in the more distant past. The connection between solar activity and terrestrial climate is an area of on-going research.

Here's another piece... regarding sunspots and climate (written in 1997, before the current cooling and a lack of sunspots).
http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap02/sunspots.html

If you're doing your own research, ask what effect it would have on the longterm climate if the U.S. quit using of fossil fuels today. What if the world quit? The climate is always changing, and there are many reasons for that fact. CO2 is just a small part of the larger picture. The "hockey-stick" graph showing the relationship of CO2 to world temperature AlGore proclaimed has been proven to be wrong. Climate scientists have shown that there have been close to 20 ice ages over the past 2 million years. The 5000 year old iceman found in the 1990s in the Alps was found only because the ice melted. An early bronze-age settlement was found in the same general area of the Alps that was found only because the ice melted. Apparently, it was warmer in their day. ;)


Jim

[Mark Rinker]

http://www.startribune.com/local/78486102.html

No problem, if you are in the paper/pulp business.

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In related news, global warming protesters are gathering in large numbers…

See this: image (http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/global_warming_protesters.jpg?w=510&h=402).

[WyoDutch]

I'm with you guys. Who cares if the world IS warming? It isn't going to have any measurable effect during my lifetime... so why worry about it?
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I'm going to let my great grandkids deal with it.

Yeah.. I drive a won-ton diesel pickup... but so what? Look at our occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan...

Today the average American G.I. in Iraq uses about 20.5 gallons of fuel every day, more than double the daily volume consumed by U.S. soldiers in Iraq in 2004. Thus, in order to secure the third-richest country on the planet, the U.S. military is burning enormous quantities of petroleum. And nearly every drop of that fuel is imported into Iraq. These massive fuel requirements—just over 3 million gallons per day for Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to the Pentagon’s Defense Energy Support Center—are a key reason for the soaring cost of the war effort.

Ain't no way I burn an average of 20 gallons of fuel per day... so why worry?

[Mark Rinker]

You are in good company. Many people share your outlook on the situation.