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Robyn
08-09-2007, 07:34
We all tend to refer to things under the hood as being on the drivers side or the passengers side when telling someone about where to find something.

Recently I was doing this on a thread and the folks are in The Land Down Under where the rigs have RH drive.

Here in the States we dont give much thought to someone having a rig that looks like ours only with the controls on the other side.

I am going to try from this point on refer to things as being on the RH or LH side of the vehicle as seen sitting in the drivers seat or as standing in front of the rig facing the engine depending on the need.:D

This should keep confusion down.

For someone that may be a newbie and has a RH drive truck this could get very confusing.

Hope this will maybe start a trend that can help

Robyn :):)

gmctd
08-09-2007, 08:00
Yep- driver's-side\passenger-side works good here, but don't even cut it, down under - sometimes I use turbo-side and dipstick-side, or opposite-turbo side

Robyn
08-09-2007, 08:51
Drivers side :confused::confused::confused:

Hmmm my turbo is on the drivers side here he says!! :rolleyes:


Yup we just dont think beyond our own back yard many times.

I wonder, on a RH drive Burb does the turbo and all the attendant stuff mount on the other side of the engine??
Not much room over on the side of the turbo to be stuffing in a steering column and brake booster with all the other goodies too.

Are the RH drive trucks a Mirror image of what we are used to or are there only some changes ??

Robyn

JohnC
08-09-2007, 12:01
...I am going to try from this point on refer to things as being on the RH or LH side of the vehicle as seen sitting in the drivers seat or as standing in front of the rig facing the engine depending on the need.:D

This should keep confusion down.

LOL!

Actually, I say "passenger's side" to avoid exactly this. If I say the right cylinder bank, do I mean from the driver's perspective or from the guy standing in front looking at the engine?

Left and right should (IMHO) always be from the driver's perspective. Then things will work for left and right hand cars and will be irrespective of the position of the observer. Otherwise, we might as well call the US cars left hand drive and the Aussie cars left hand drive, too. After all, South is up down there... ;)

DmaxMaverick
08-09-2007, 12:18
I agree with John (don't let that go to your head, John). LH/RH has always, to me, meant from the driver's perspective, seated behind the wheel, or looking at the vehicle from rear to front. Also, which direction does the engine rotate? CW or CCW? Depends on where you are standing.

This and other discussion boards have been catering to other cultures (as in other than US) for a long time. The folks down under aren't the only ones with RHD, and the LH/RH thing isn't the only issue. We've always managed to get a point across, and any orientation confusion has been short lived.

Really, though, does the turbo spin the other way south of the equator???

DennisG01
08-09-2007, 12:48
RH/LH has always meant from the driver's perspective to me, as well. However, the clearest way would be to call it port/starboard as that doesn't matter which way your perspective is. However, we may have to hold a seamanship class, first! :D

Robyn
08-09-2007, 14:44
Then someone will ask what 2 points abaft the staboard beam means :confused:

OMG talking about boats on TDP :D

Robyn

DmaxMaverick
08-09-2007, 14:59
Boats got Diesel motors. Don't they?

moondoggie
08-10-2007, 09:59
Good Day!

"...does the turbo spin the other way south of the equator???" Yup - & the engines run the other direction too. :p

How about: "driver side (US)", "passenger side (US)"? Sorta like "$100 US" & "$140 C". This is shorter than "LH side as seated in the driver's seat" or "LH side facing the engine compartment" or "LH side facing the rear of the vehicle".

Please forgive me if I muddied the waters even more. In reality, I doubt you'll get a convention started, although I admire the effort. At the end of the day, clarity is helpful to the reader, & ANYTHING done to achieve that is a good idea. :D

Blessings!

warwagon
08-10-2007, 17:12
yep! that's one word. seems that the dilema regarding east & west i mean r/l seem to to have been resolved by the powers that be all Diesel! it is amazing how many people don't know that r/l is taken from the front seat [drivers facing forwards!] carry -on !!!

Turbine Doc
08-12-2007, 09:11
Zactly why on my day job (working on modified jets for marine & industrial use) all naming conventions are ALF,

Exhaust of engine (aft); looking to inlet of engine (fwd); regardless how/where the engine is mounted.

So 3 oclock identification of a problem on engine (btw we use clock dial as we have stuff 360 deg on engine) with 12 oclock being top of engine, 3 would be right side, 6 bottom, & 9 being left side cuts down confusion even works in down under land.

So maybe we could adopt same, ALF flywheel end to damper end, cause turbo side don't mean anything to a 6.5er with a center mounted turbo.

rustyk
08-13-2007, 22:06
Then someone will ask what 2 points abaft the staboard beam means :confused:

OMG talking about boats on TDP :D

Robyn

Means 2/32 of 360 degrees aft of 90 degrees measured clockwise from "dead ahead" (0 degrees). This is 22.5 degrees abaft the beam at 90 degrees, or 112.5 degrees relative.

To (hopefully) bore everyone with nautical/compass terminology, there are four Cardinal points on a compass: North, East, South, and West. These are divided into eight intercardinal points, adding: NE, SE, SW, and NW. Each quadrant is further divided into a total of 32 points (I'll only do the first quadrant, N through E; the "x" reads "by"): N, NNExN, NNE, NNExE, NE, ENExN, ENExE, and E.

But for relative sightings, based on the ship's head, the "points" are also used, but start at the bow and go, in points around to the stern.

So Robyn's sighting of something "2 points abaft the starboard beam" would be : "Green One Oh" (ten points from the ship's head to starboard, there being 8 points in 90 degrees, which has the green running light), or 122.5 relative.

Why yes, I am a retired Swabbie - in case you wanted to ask....and as you probably noted, it's best not to get me started...:D