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CleviteKid
07-28-2004, 08:16
Subject: A curious enthusiast has a question

To the experts at the diesel page:

For a long time, I've been wondering why unlike gasoline engines, diesel engines produce that distinct metallic clatter. I'd appreciate it if you could give me a good answer.


TanManCanFan


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Hello TanMan:

The Clevite Kid, a.k.a. Dr. Lee, will answer your question.

You may have noticed that a gasoline engine with the spark advanced too much, or with a really bad load of gas going up a steep hill in high gear, pings and knocks sort of like a diesel. Both the diesel noise, and a pinging gas engine, are experiencing a high rate of pressure rise due to combustion.

The faster the fuel burns in the combustion chamber, the faster the pressure in the combustion chamber is going up. That wave of pressure hits the cylinder walls and the cylinder head like a hammer. With a low rate of pressure rise, it is like hitting the engine with a soft rubber hammer - spreading out the energy of the impact. With a very rapid rate of rise, it is like hitting the engine with a steel ball pien hammer, concentrating the impact over a very short time. This trys to make the engine ring like a bell. What you are hearing is the structure of the engine block and cylinder heads reverberating and vibrating in response to the impact of the combustion gases slamming against them.

This happens more naturally in the diesel, hence the typical diesel rattle or clatter. Diesel engines are built stronger and heavier to withstand these acoustic impacts, compared to gasoline engines, which are not SUPPOSED to be operated while detonating, pinging, or knocking.

Dr. Lee

britannic
08-07-2004, 06:45
Detonation can also destroy diesel engines, just not quite as fast as a gas engine though. The good Doctor accurately described the cause of the rattle, but for the record, Diesels burn their fuel/air charges and as designed (well maintained and tuned of course :D ), never detonate!

Detonation, pinging and knocking are generally the result of two or more flame fronts in the combustion area colliding, resulting in a dangerous pressure rise that mimics a weak explosive, instead of a steadily burning mixture.

Since a diesel ignites the injected fuel with hot compressed air, the combustion event is extremely vigorous and most of the fuel ignites simultaneously, whereas the gas engine, lights the fuel mixture with a spark, which propagates to the rest of the fuel/air charge.