Dually Wheel Simulators

[IndigoDually]

Has anyone had any luck finding stainless steel wheel simulators for the '01 or'02 3500 dually wheels? The only ones that I have found for these trucks are the snap on type not the ones that mount with the lug nuts. I am afraid that the snap on hubcap type won't stay attached on will be tight to the rim.Any help would be appreciated.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
Wife's daily driver

My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

[GMCMax]

Check with www.dieselcite.com. (http://www.dieselcite.com.) Cite offers snap-on type. If you call, you can order lug nut type. Same price. Hope this helps.

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2002 Chevy K3500 Crew Cab, D/A, Gray with Graphite Cloth

[IndigoDually]

I contacted Riley Enterprises and they have dually sims in the under lug type also and for the same price as snap on type $145+14.50 shipping. If these are the like the ones I had on my '97 the GM center caps will fit making them look OEM.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
Wife's daily driver

My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

[Raye]

Does anyone know what those cheap factory
beauty rings fit that come on our trucks.
Mine are cut out for valve stems,so I
assume there made for something else.

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2001 Duramax,3500,Dually,
Allison,4 door,Victory
red,4x4. 30 Ft. gooseneck
trailer,hydraulic tilt
for antique tractors.

[DSLPOWR]

Check your front rims/rings, on the front the valve stems should poke out through the indentations. Since the stems are only located on one side of the rim they are pointed in on the back (dually). They are universal to all 16" rim trucks.

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2001 2500HD LT Extended cab, D/A, Onyx Black, Graphite leather, 4x4, 295 BFG's on Eagle Alloys, MX7000 lightbar,lots of aluminum tread plate,
BOSS 8' snowplow, straight piped and lovin' it.....
www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=dslpowr (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=dslpowr)

1994 Chevrolet 2500 Silverado 4x4, Blown, injected 454, 9" Lift, PLAY TRUCK AND TOW TOY!!!

[GMCMax]

Factory caps will not work. Simulators are all one piece. Held on by two studs screwed on over factory lug nuts.

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2002 Chevy K3500 Crew Cab, D/A, Gray with Graphite Cloth

[dieselsite]

I do have the stainless bolt-on simulators in stock now at the wharehouse. In fact, we are not even stocking the snap-ons any longer for obvious reasons.

These are one peice and attatch to two studs and then have two large lug nuts that attatch to that. These look very sharp.

You will not be able to use the factory center caps. These have thge center caps built into them.

As far as I know, these are the only bolt-ons available on the market right now.

The web site does not show this new item yet. It will shortly as soon as my webmaster gets to it. The price on the bolt-ons will be 155.00. The first ones I sold went out at 145.00 before the price increase.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Bob

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[mowser]

I just put in an order for wheel simulators from http://www.jaeeagle.com/index.html you use your hubcaps with them and they are made with stainless steel and the price looks good also.

mowser http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/smile.gif click on www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser) to see my truck and 5th wheel.

[This message has been edited by mowser (edited 11-13-2001).]

[B-Dog]

mowser, just looking at your pics

where did you get the silver paint? Is this a custom job or did it come from the factory
I thought GM isn't offering it as a colour option anymore..

[mowser]

I special ordered it from the factory, I wanted a Silver truck so I asked for it, and they said OKey-Dokey.

mowser http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[This message has been edited by mowser (edited 11-13-2001).]

[mdrag]

mowser,

Nice looking truck!! Really like the SILVER. Is that a Lund stainless screen front or coldfront on your truck? I've had a coldfront on order for over 1 month and hope to see it soon. Thanks. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
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[dieselsite]

Mowser,
Real sharp rig you got there. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/smile.gif
Bob

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[NorCalDMAX]

Mowser,
Clean set up. I like it. The Silver looks good. Man I must say those 5ers are sure BIG. I see them being pulled along and wonder if those things are easy to tow. I have no idea how much they weigh. I tow a 25ft 10,916lb(just scaled it) Race car trailer. That is long enough for me.


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2001 Chevrolet K3500 LS Duramax/Allison 4x4 CC LB "Dooley" Victory Red/Light Grey Leather with Bench Front seat.

E-mail: cii@onebox.com

Homepage. www.j-line-racing.cityslide.com (http://www.j-line-racing.cityslide.com)

[dieselsite]

NorcalDmax,
If you haven't towed a fiver yet, you don't know what your missing. They tow like a dream. No more white knuckles. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif I will never buy another bumper pull again. You can pass trucks and never feel the slightest sway or push. No more "tail wagging the dog".

Bob

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[mowser]

mdrag,

No that isn't a winter front, it's a summer, stainless steel, bug screen, and it's not made by LUND, I just picked them up at a GM dealer. I'm going to check today to see if they have the cold front for the HD's also.

mowser http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/smile.gif www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[cantravel]

Dieselsite: Do you actually look at your email (I'm tired of emailing shops who never read/reply to their mail) and would you ship to Ontario Canada via FedEx or UPS.

01 Chev K3500 LT D/A Crew LBx
Diesel Page Member #40

[dieselsite]

Look at it constantly. In fact, OE stays open here just about all the time. Sorry, never got an email from you. Got one yesterday wanting more information. I replied to that one, but never got a response.

Yes, I will ship to Canada. No problem. We'll probably have to go post office unless Fed Ex does ground to canada. UPS won't send ground. They charge only Worldwide express and it's EXPENSIVE.

Bob

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[cantravel]

My apologies Dieselsite. I did not mean to imply that I had sent you an email that you did not reply to. I was referring to the often found problem of vendors not reading their email.

So I am sending you an order right now.

Thanks.

[cantravel]

Got my dually stainless wheel simulators from DieselSite,(Kukamonga California) delivered right to my door in just 6 days via UPS.

As described in his post above, these are single piece, highly polished stainless covers. Quality appears as good as any I have seen. Made in China, just like everything else these days.

Some installation hints!

Lube all threads with lithium grease before installation. Supplied threaded parts are somewhat crude and easy to cross-thread. Get a tetanus shot before you commence installation. All punched edges are sharp.

Buy a 5/16th hex wrench to turn and tighten the mounting nut onto the existing wheel nut. The mounting nut must be completely tightened to eliminate wheel cover rattle when installed.

Remember, these nuts (2 per wheel) must be removed to change a flat tire! Store the 5/16th hex wrench with the tire jack in the storage compartment as it will be needed to remove the nut for wheel/tire replacement.

I think these stainless covers are good value for price, and when installed look as good as any I have ever seen.

01 Chev K3500 LT D/A Crew LBx
Mobil Delvac 1 5w40 Synthetic Engine Oil
Amsoil Air Filter, Amsoil 75w90 Axle Lube
Diesel Page Member #40

[a64pilot]

mowser,
Did you get the simulators? How well did they work out? I like the idea of retaining the factory centers, but I want to find out how well they stay on and how well they are made before I buy a set.

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2001 C3500 LT Charcoal Grey
CC/Longbed Putco boss boards,
virtual grill,mudflaps,sill protectors Rhino liner,
bug deflector. Looking into Boost/EGT gague

[mowser]

a64pilot;

Yes, I've got them on the truck now, they're made out of stainless steel in China and I'm very happy with them. I've added some pictures: check out the latest pictures taken in the snow, in the Silver Silverado album. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[Maverick]

Mowser,
Does the simulator overlap the rim so it touches the tire? I have had a problem in the past where the sim touched the tire and when the tire rolls the sidewall flexes alittle and squeaks. Are they really snug? No rattles? Thanks.

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01' Chevy Silverado/ Reg. Cab LS 3500 4x4/ Duramax Diesel 380HP-Allison/ Aluma Flatbed Body/ Curt Gooseneck Hitch/ Lucerix Mirrors/ Amsoil Air Filter/ 9' Sno-Way Snow Plow/ High Idle Installed/ Lund SS Screen Front
gfbr@mtaonline.net
Click here for pictures (http://www.PictureTrail.com/maverick2)

[mowser]

Maverick;
I have noticed a slight squeak or rattle coming from the front wheel (drivers side at slow speeds with the window down) now that you mention it. I just went outside and checked them and the simulators on the rear wheels are good n' snug and don't touch the tires (3500) but the front simulators appear to be touching the tires in certain areas (off centre slightly) and this would account for the noise that I'm hearing.
Since you've "been there done that" what would you suggest for a fix if any?
Maybe I'll try to centre them by using a large flat blade screwdriver and prying against the tire to force them away from the tire (when it gets a lot warmer and I'm bored http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif).
mowser www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[IndigoDually]

My sims squeaked on the wheel balance weights. If you pull the simulator off look at the weights and see if the paint is rubbed off of them.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[Maverick]

Mowser,
Thats about all you can do is try self centering the best you can. If it still touches and squeaks then pry it away from the tire with a BFS (Big Fricking Screwdriver). Dabs of grease, oil, or WD-40 didn't work for me to stop the squeak. If you can center them without touching the tire, let me know. I'll order a set also.

I was just thinking, what if you put that 1/8 thick foam gasket stuff that is sticky on one side on the back of the sim. It might take up some of the slop and prevent metal to metal contact for awhile anyway. Maybe it would work if the sim still touches the tire. Double it up and maybe it would be thick enough to hold it away from the tire so it doesn't squeak. Just might work.

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01' Chevy Silverado/ Reg. Cab LS 3500 4x4/ Duramax Diesel 380HP-Allison/ Aluma Flatbed Body/ Curt Gooseneck Hitch/ Lucerix Mirrors/ Amsoil Air Filter/ 9' Sno-Way Snow Plow/ High Idle Installed/ Lund SS Screen Front
gfbr@mtaonline.net
Click here for pictures (http://www.PictureTrail.com/maverick2)

[This message has been edited by Maverick (edited 01-01-2002).]

[mowser]

IndigoDually and Maverick;
When it warms up (supposedly next week) I'll see what I can do with the simulators. I've put probably 500 or so miles on the truck with them on the wheels and the caps & plastic nuts are still tight (new plastic nuts come with the simulators and replace the original ones) so all I have to do now is get them to stay off of the tire somehow.
I had ALCOA wheels on my 93 2500 GMC 6.5 TD (and I was happy with them), but they're not available for the Duallys yet; And anyway, I'm not sure if I want to put them on (along with 235/85/16's), I think I'll wait to see some other opinions first. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

mowser www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[dieselsite]

I have been out of touch slightly over the last few weeks. Been moving to a new shop. I removed this set from the site because of too many complaints of a squeak on the front wheels. They were new, and all the others for different applications made no noise. ?? Oh, well. I do have an avenue for a different set, and I'll have more info this week. between me moving and everything shut down for the holidays, I couldn't get moving on them. I will though this week. As soon as I get any info, I'll post it here in this thread. I do know they will be more money, but hopefully the noise will not be an issue.

Bob

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[Maverick]

Mowser,
Whats different about the plastic nuts that they give you new ones?

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01' Chevy Silverado/ Reg. Cab LS 3500 4x4/ Duramax Diesel-Allison/ Aluma Flatbed Body/ Curt Gooseneck Hitch/ Lucerix Mirrors/ Amsoil Air Filter/ 9' Sno-Way Snow Plow/ High Idle Installed/ Lund SS Screen Front
gfbr@mtaonline.net
Click here for pictures (http://www.PictureTrail.com/maverick2)

[mowser]

Maverick;
From what I can remember it has something to do with the thread pattern to compensate for the thickness of the simulator.

mowser www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[mowser]

Maverick;
I just got finished talking with Ron at jaeeagle.com (where I ordered the sims from), I told him about my problem with the front simulators; he said that it might be the way the Goodyear tires are made and offered to send me a new set of fronts that he is going to modify in some way. So... I'll have to see how the new one's fit and let you know.

mowser www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser)

[IndigoDually]

My '97 had stock 225/75 tires on the truck and I did not have any squeaks, the sims that I had on that truck bolted on with the rim onder the steel retaining ring the the plastic center cover went on with the plastic lug covers. When I changed to 245/85's I still did not have any problems with noises.
I think the key to find covers that will work best is to find a set that bolts under the lugs so that they are held tight against the rim. The plastic center cap and plastic nuts can't hold tight enough to stop any movement.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[dieselsite]

Well, I have good news and bad news. The good news is I have located a set that bolt in behind the lugs specifically for these wheels. The bad news is the price is much higher. But, I guess that was to be expected since the wheel is specific to GM. I have one gracious member here that volunteered to be a "guinnie pig" per say and try a set. As soon as we get them on, we'll know if this has cured the problem with the noise.

Thanks John,

Bob

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[a64pilot]

Bob,
Do they retain the stock wheel center caps?

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2001 C3500 LT Charcoal Grey
CC/Longbed Putco boss boards,
virtual grill,mudflaps,sill protectors Rhino liner,
bug deflector. Looking into Boost/EGT gague

[dieselsite]

I don't beleive so, but we'll know more in a few days. I think they should be able to with the design. I hope so, since I know many of you would like that.
Bob

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[cantravel]

Dieselsite: Installed the set of simulators you sent me, see my post above respecting installation hints. I have a slight tick I can hear on the drivers side front, but I think it will dissappear in the near future. Otherwise, I think these covers are better quality than the bolt on type specific to GM which I had on my 94. I think the trick to a silent install is to tighten the nuts just so...and lube the threads as I suggested. I do think this set is very good quality stainless!

Diesel Page Member #40

[dieselsite]

cantravel,
I've used that manufacturer for many different applications and never got a set back, then sold 5 sets of these new ones and got 3 out of the 5 back. Those odds are scary to keep them. I like the price as I'm sure you do too, but if it takes too much "fi'ness"(sp) to get them quiet, most will be dissapointed. not sure what I should do. I can keep carrying them, but I would have to letthem know before hand aboutthe special care needed to get them on right.
Bob

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[dieselsite]

I got to see a picture of a set of these yesterday. They appear like you'll be able to use the factory centercaps. They have 8 holes in them. Every other hole is large enough to go around the lug nut, and the other 4 get bolted behind the nuts. This means, you don't have to take the wheels off to instal them. Just pull off every other nut and reinstall on top of the cover. That said, I don't see how the factory center caps won't work. We'll see.

John, yours came in Fri and were sent out same day.
Bob

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[IndigoDually]

I'll be waiting at the street for the big brown truck! I'll let everyone know how it goes after I install them, maybe even a few pictures if the truck isn't too filthy.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[Maverick]

Dieselsite,
What is the part # and cost of the ones you are talking about.? Only requires 4 lugs to be removed and uses the original centers?

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01' Chevy Silverado/ Reg. Cab LS 3500 4x4/ Duramax Diesel-Allison/ Aluma Flatbed Body/ Curt Gooseneck Hitch/ Lucerix Mirrors/ Amsoil Air Filter/ 9' Sno-Way Snow Plow/ High Idle Installed/ Lund SS Screen Front
gfbr@mtaonline.net
Click here for pictures (http://www.PictureTrail.com/maverick2)

[dieselsite]

Maverick,
Since I discontinued the last type, this one will hopefully replace them and I will just use the same part number 003 as the last to make the online store still work right. But, until John gets them, I can't say for sure that the center caps will work, and they aren't "officially" available till afterwards either. I don't want to go thru, nor put anyone else thru what happened last time till I know for sure. These new units are 340.00. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to post prices, but since I haven't put thtem on the site yet, I can't link you to them.

Hang tight, we'll know for sure everything in a few days.

Bob

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[IndigoDually]

I just installed the simulators that I got from Bob Riley (a.k.a. www.dieselsite.com (http://www.dieselsite.com) ).They attach UNDER the lug nuts for a secure fit. I have had good luck with this type of sims before. They come with a retaining ring and a center cap or you can use the factory center caps. They don?t seem to have much contact with the tire sidewall like the last set that I tried and they squeaked horribly. I will test them by putting on the snowplow and seeing if there are any squeaks. I haven't driven much to see if there is any noise but I will let everyone know.

I posted a couple pics on my album of the sims installed. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[This message has been edited by IndigoDually (edited 01-18-2002).]

[dieselsite]

John, those look fantastic with the centercaps! Let us know how it goes with the plow on.

Bob

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[IndigoDually]

Well guess what, I drove about an hour today and they are now squeaking! I will try to re-center them tomorrow and possibly put some foam gasket between the sim and the front rim to see if that will remedy the problem.
What aggravates me is that I like them and I like the way they look and they are a quality stainless, I just need to quiet them. I'll see what I can do with them but there is some snow on the way so I'll be busy.


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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[mdrag]

IndigoDually,

The wheel sims look good. I hope you get the squeaking resolved.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL25/157168/522539/6431382.jpg

I noticed in your first PICTURE (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=546441&uid=445776) of the wheel sims that your tire appears to have a depression/ridge in the sidewall between the 10 and 11 o'clock position.

Some of the tires on my 3500 have these ridges as well. The front PS side tire recently started losing air ~10 psi per day. I changed the valve stem and checked to make sure nothing had pierced the tire (no nails, glass, etc.) - still leaking.

I'm going to try and take the truck in to the dealer next week to have the tires checked out.

Have you had any problems with your tires? Do you know what is causing the ridges in the sidewall?

ON EDIT: I changed the VALVE CORE not the ruber valve stem.

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mdrag
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'01 3500 "BIG DOOLEY" DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather<LI>12 Disc CD Changer/Escalade Steering Wheel Audio Controls/Pioneer TS-C1653 Component Speakers <LI>Kennedy Diesel Headlight Harness with 4 Lamp Mode/Dual Alts with PowerMaster 200A<LI>TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/Fast Fill fillneck/ROSTRA Obstacle Sensing System<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles<LI>Future Mods Include: Alcoas, 4" Exhaust, Performance Module.... etc.
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[This message has been edited by mdrag (edited 01-19-2002).]

[IndigoDually]

MDRAG, the ridges are called "undulations" and they are a normal occurrence. This is what I have been told in the past, I have had many tires that have had these and I have not experienced any problems related to them.
Come to think of it, the other tires that had the undulations were also Goodyear. I had trailer tires that were loaded with them and they did have the belts separateon two of the four at the same time but I think it was unrelated.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[dieselsite]

I was under the impression that those ridges were where the belts were bonded together. Normal, but looks bad.
Bob

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www.dieselsite.com (http://www.dieselsite.com) 407-321-0024 Pictures (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=261542&a=1947259&f=0)

[mdrag]

Thanks for the explanation. I've not noticed the undulations on any of my other brand tires. Glad to hear that Goodyear considers those normal.

There is a Goodyear plant here in Lawton. I've heard people with Goodyear tire problems going to a tire shop near the plant and being treated really well - may have to see what they say about it.

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mdrag
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'01 3500 "BIG DOOLEY" DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>12 Disc CD Changer/Escalade Steering Wheel Audio Controls/Pioneer TS-C1653 Component Speakers
<LI>Kennedy Diesel Headlight Harness with 4 Lamp Mode/Dual Alts with PowerMaster 200A
<LI>TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/Fast Fill fillneck/ROSTRA Obstacle Sensing System
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Alcoas, 4" Exhaust, Performance Module.... etc.
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[IndigoDually]

mdrag, I thought that rubber valve stems were not rated for higher pressures such as 80 psi. and they were supposed to be bolt-in style? I will change to bolt-in valve stems if I have a problem.

P.S. I re-centered the simulators and they still squeak, although the plow in now on so I will see if the noise goes away. If not I will try a thin rubber gasket because I really want them to work because the appearance of the truck is really changed by them!

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade


My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto G/N hitch Farm Truck 20,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[This message has been edited by IndigoDually (edited 01-19-2002).]

[dieselsite]

Hey, what about that weatherproofing strips with adhesive on one side? Just thinking of ideas. since this seems like the last hope and they are by far the best option being able to use the factory centercaps.
Bob

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www.dieselsite.com (http://www.dieselsite.com) 407-321-0024 Pictures (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=261542&a=1947259&f=0)

[mdrag]

IndigoDually,

In my previous post on the tire losing air, I incorrectly said I changed the valve stem - I changed the valve core on that tire and the tire is still leaking.

I was checking it again today, and I think the leak is from the RUBBER VALVE STEM. If I bend the stem in one certain direction, I can hear the air leaking, there is no apparent cut in the stem that I can see. Also, it did not seem that the stem was out far enough and after pulling it out a bit, much harder to get air to hiss. We'll see...

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mdrag
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'01 3500 "BIG DOOLEY" DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>12 Disc CD Changer/Escalade Steering Wheel Audio Controls/Pioneer TS-C1653 Component Speakers
<LI>Kennedy Diesel Headlight Harness with 4 Lamp Mode/Dual Alts with PowerMaster 200A
<LI>TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/Fast Fill fillneck/ROSTRA Obstacle Sensing System
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Alcoas, 4" Exhaust, Performance Module.... etc.
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[mbrower]

Those depressions on the tires are cased by light sidewall joints. When the tires are assembled the rubber used to make the sidewall joint is cut with a bevel and joined by hand. If the jount is too heavy or too light, it will have the depression. It comes down to a weak area in the sidewall. All tires makers have this problem, some just have closer tolerances than others. The cord is a separate layer of rubber and has nothing to do with the sidewall, If the cord had a weak joint it would blow out the tire sidewall during the initial mount 99% of the time. The tire is safe from blowouts and will not decrease the life of the tire. It just looks bad to the eye. I build truck tires for a major tire manufacturer ( I won't say which one, they don't like for employees to discuss tire building). Look on the back side of the tire, you will usually find another one in the same spot.
Mark

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8.1 3500 ext cab big Dooley

[zrone]

After returning two sets of wheel sims because of noise I finally got a set that works great from JAE Enterprises Inc. I did not get the type that you can use your own caps.

[Big O]

mowser--how about your running boards, mud flaps and grill. Where did you get them, and how much? Please send email with info/links to oalford@i-55.com

Thanks,


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Otis Alford
'02 3500 LS 6 spd, LWB, CC, 4X4, Dark Carmine, tan interior; with Una-Goose Hitch, Jordan 2020 Ultima brake controller, (FREE) Commercial H/D Adrian Aluminum tool box,
Husky contoured floor liners, Bed X-tender, Ultrasteps,

[IndigoDually]

Big O, now go to each post and click on the pencil and pad to edit the post and try deleting it from there.

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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount, Curt Quick Goose, Westin CPS Step Bars, Back Rack, Avital remote start ( KEEPIN UP WITH THE MDRAG?S) - NOT LIKELY
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade
Front and Rear hideaway strobes

My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch
Whelen Strobe Bar

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto B&M ShiftPlus(best $40 I ever spent) G/N hitch Farm Truck 36,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[This message has been edited by IndigoDually (edited 02-01-2002).]

[Big O]

IndigoDually--I call myself trying that yesterday, but it would not work?? Worked today! Thanks,

Anybody know where I can get the running board, mud flaps, and grill like mowers??



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Otis Alford
'02 3500 LS 6 spd, LWB, CC, 4X4, Dark Carmine, tan interior; with Una-Goose Hitch, Jordan 2020 Ultima brake controller, (FREE) Commercial H/D Adrian Aluminum tool box,
Husky contoured floor liners, Bed X-tender, Ultrasteps,

[mowser]

Big O,
The running boards and flaps come from www.luvernetruck.com (http://www.luvernetruck.com) and the winter grill covers are made in Canada but Lund makes the same thing. The boards are called "Stainless Steel Side Entry Steps" and if you go to their web site I'm sure they can give you all the information you need.
mowser www.picturetrail.com/mowser (http://www.picturetrail.com/mowser) http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Wally R]

Indigo Dually:
How about an update on the dually wheel simulators that you got from dieselsite.
Now that you've had them awhile, what are the pros and cons ?? Would you recommend them ??
I'm sure many guys like me would like to get some if they are any good and not going to be a P.I.A.
Thanks

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2001 Chevy Silverado SLT 3500 Ext Cab, Indigo Blue, DuraMax/Allison, Line-X, Lance camper & towing 37FT 9000 lbs tri-axle race car trailer.

[IndigoDually]

Well, I'm keeping them. They aren't perfect but they are the best that I can come up with. The rear wheels are fine but the fronts need a little foam gasket material under the lip where it contacts the edge of the bead.
The sims are a good quality and the stainless is nice and shiny. I think that these are the best that you can get for this new off-set wheel. They go under all of the lugs and you can use the center caps that are supplied of the factory ones will work just fine like I did.
Bob Riley was very patient with me and my schedule while waiting for a final answer from me so he can let others know and ship out more sets. I ended up putting strips of rubber gasket material 3/8" wide and 3/16" thick in places around the perimiter making sure that the wheel weights are insulated from the simulator.


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'02 GMC 3500 Crew/longbed 4x4 (Wife's daily driver)
Indigo blue/Graphite leather/all the toys(you only go around once!)
G/N,Rhino,Western 8 1/2 UltraMount, Curt Quick Goose, Westin CPS Step Bars, Back Rack, Avital remote start ( KEEPIN UP WITH THE MDRAG?S) - NOT LIKELY
Kennedy Headlight Upgrade
Front and Rear hideaway strobes

My work truck:
'95 3500HD 15,000GVW
6.5 T/D 5 speed
chipped and exhaust mods
(with help of Kennedy)
10 1/2' Alum dumping flatbed
GN hitch
Whelen Strobe Bar

'94 K2500 EXT.Cab 6.5/Auto B&M ShiftPlus(best $40 I ever spent) G/N hitch Farm Truck 36,000 mi.

Pictures
www.picturetrail.com/indigodually (http://www.picturetrail.com/indigodually)

[IndigoDually]

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[mowser]

Well I finally got around to installing the "NEW" front simulators on my truck ( that JAEEAGLE sent me a while ago)....... My wife wanted to go shopping, so we took the truck, and on the way we rolled down the windows and we could "REALLY" hear the squeaking comming from the "NEW" front simulators...... My wife went into a shoe store, & I hopped into the back of the truck and opened my storage box, to get my old standbye "WD40". I sprayed "WD40" around the outer edge of the front "SIMULATORS", & when we got under way again all we heard was that purring DURAMAX diesel (IT WORKED). I took the truck to the handwand carwash today and it's still working ("NO SQUEAKING"). I've got my fingers crossed and I hope I've helped and or solved the problem of the "SQUEAKING SIMULATORS". ;)

[Redhawk]

Do wheel balance weights interfere in any way with the sims? I was wondering if the sim would sit over the weight and not cause a wobble. Thanks.