Any truth to this????

[DMAX-RAY]

Found this on another forum - anyone know if this is true or BS???

"Good News and Bad News just found out from my Unc who works for GM corp that the 04 Duramax is going to be more powerfull than the freshly release Powerstroke by 50 horse and 75 Pounds of Torque.

The Ford is 300 and 550 respectively the new DURAMAX is slated to have 350 Ponies and a whopping 625 foot pounds of thunder...Go CHEVY! Suck on this Ford.

Bad News there has been a large flaw discovered in the Allison Tranny that can cause a sheering effect and rupture the Transfer case sending Shars of metal into the fuel cell and risking fire or explosion. Let me know if anyone else has heard of this happening to anyone.

Chevy Rules the Wood."

Thoughts???

[hoot]

I have not heard any of it.

The info is wrong on the Ford and is most likely wrong on the rest.

[Colorado Kid]

I'm confident that there is nothing that can go wrong in a transmission that will cause explosive failure of a transfer case. Even if it did there is nothing in a transfer case hot enough to ignite diesel fuel.

Unless I'm wrong there have been only software and switch failures in the Allisons, and only a few actuator failures in tranfer cases.

I'm running the BS flag all the way up for this one.

[BigAl]

BS! (A statement, not a noun!)

This is fairly simple....................kinda like the knee bone's connected to the shin bone.

The tranny has a shaft coming out of the back end that splines into the transfer case. Worst case scenario is that, at high speed, for some reason, output shaft stops solid...............driveline components (from the tires right back to the yokes on the T-case, and up through the T-case itself) try to MAKE the tranny output shaft turn and something breaks. If this happens, as Colorado Kid said, don't believe it's going to "explode"...........probably gonna mess some parts up real bad, but it's not a grenade!

P.S. When I was a kid, I was tooling around in a Chebbie with a Powerslide, and the cute young thing sitting on the console next to me decided to rearrange herself and accidentally pushed the shift lever into Reverse. There was a very slight "chirp" from the tires and then all quiet. The engine had stalled, and my Powerslide now had three (3) neutral positions, but nothing exploded...............heck, it didn't even drip oil, just NO GO!!!

[LanceW]

Big Al- this is off-topic, but you reminded me of a pretty good oops- when I was 17 I was at a buddy's place while he was changing the oil in his beater chevette- he finished up, we jumped in and headed off somewhere (trouble, most likely). he reached in his shirt pocket for a smoke and pulled out... the drain plug. Naturally, being stupid, we turned around, drove the 2 or 3 miles back to his place, put the plug in, filled it with oil, and took back off for trouble. He had the car 6 more months and then sold it to buy a Camaro, as far as I know it lived a normal lifespan. There are some things you can only do to a $200 car...

[Kollin Syverson]

Dont quote me on this, but I believe the new Ford to be around 325 HP. I guess I look at it this way, I do not need over about 200 HP. Why would I want over 200 HP. All day I drive a FL80 Freightliner rated at 250 HP with a payload of 24,000 pounds, keep in mind this truck empty weighs about 21,000 pounds. Now consider a baby truck (pick up truck) that weighs 6,000 pounds with 300+ HP, sure you can pull that load of 20,000 pounds, but sooner or later you have to stop. Bottom line is you do not have enough vehicle to pull that amount of weight SAFELY, I don't care what anyone says. Think of it as the tail wagging the dog. I pesonally would rather take a little more time and take it slower and do it safely. With that being said, I will stick to my 6.5.

[technician]

But Kollin it's so much fun taken off from stop lights and out runnin Audi's, BMW's, etc....

That's what horsepower is for !!!!! :D

[afp]

I also had a Powerglide "incident" in my first drag race car. I hadn't yet discovered the secret to make SBC headers seal, and I didn't like the poppin' sounds I'd get when I'd lift at the finish line. So I started shifiting into neutral after crossing the line. This is a really bad idea. One day I pushed the lever just a tad too far and the tranny just hit reverse for a second. The tires chirped (at about 100 mph) and I drove back to the pits. I had broken the shift lever and trashed ALL the clutches. The saddest thing was I had won that round and I think I was in the quarter finals. I was actually lucky. Another guy did that with his 'glide in his late model (in 1990), $40,000 Daytona and rolled his car.

Blaine

[TBC]

Last time I saw HP and torque numbers on a Duramax it was 300 HP and 520 ft lbs torque. Now if I add the numbers quoted of 50 hp and 75 lbs torque I believe it makes Duramax 550 HP and 595 ft lbs torque not the quoted 625. This is not a lot over the Ford numbers on hp. Don't remember Ford's torque numbers.

Where did you get your info?

Tom

[ChevysRus]

Well if nothing else at least they have stopped talking about the melting Alum Heads!!! LOL
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[Idle_Chatter]

This is not BS! BS has to have at least a shred of credibility! This is not even *CLOSE* to BS! :rolleyes:
"...shearing effect and rupture the Transfer case sending Shards of metal into the fuel cell and risking fire or explosion..."
Man! I sure hope that I don't "shear" a rock up into that 26-gallon ticking time-bomb of a "fuel cell" under my truck and set off a cataclysmic detonation of all that volatile DIESEL FUEL!!! :eek: Holy Cow! just imagine the devastation!! tongue.gif

[sixl]

I have heard that the 04' dmax will have new turbo and diff. injectors to make 375hp and 675tq Don't quote me on this but something like that and some obvious tranny upgrades :eek:

[mtomac]

350 hp & 625ft# is more believable for 04 and it's enough to keep Ford #2 in HP & TQ. The new 6.0PS in IH trucks is 230hp 620ft#