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getupingo
08-21-2003, 18:24
I was told from a reliable source at GM proving grounds here in AZ that in 2005 there is gona be a sixth gear added to the allison transmission.
I believe what he told me, but I was also wondering if anybody out there had heard the same as I have. Anyone?
getupingo
dmaxalliTech
08-21-2003, 19:46
Everything is already there to do so as far as powertrain, just need the plumbing to turn it on! IIRC its the Allison 2000 series that uses 6 speeds. I havent heard of it being introduced in light duty trucks. I have to wonder if that would be a good thing or not, considering we already have issues not holding the power and downshifting. IMHO it would cause some shift business, but I suppose programming could cure that. I will see if I can dig up any info on this.
SoCalDMAX
08-21-2003, 20:25
Yup, we heard a while back that some of the parts were there, just needed some solenoids and programming to use it. Final ratio is .61:1 as opposed to .71:1 for 5th. I kept hoping they'd announce it for '04 just to make Ford and Dodge look like last yrs tranny leftovers.
If a person had taller than stock tires (33" or whatever) and picked the right ratio (say 4.56 or something) for the R&P, he could have a very fast, sweet shifting, 6 speed auto tranny. To me, the optimum setup would be able to turn 1500 rpm at 70mph unloaded yet still turn 1900rpm at 68mh or so in 5th while towing. The shorter ratio would bring all the gears a little closer together and get the 4-5 shift out of the cruising speed.
Regards, Steve
It would be interesting to have an ultra-overdrive top gear for unloaded cruising. It is embarrassing somehow that my wife's Honda Odyssey has a higher net final drive ratio than my truck :(
TC
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Silver Bullet
08-21-2003, 22:31
How many overdrive lockout switches will it take??? :confused: Or will they just give us more options...P R N 6 5 4 3 2 1 ??? :D :eek:
77TransAm
08-22-2003, 07:56
getupingo, your source may not be as reliable as you think; he (or she) is off by a year or so...
As has been covered before, the 1000/2000/2400 series transmissions do use the same gear arrangement as their larger six speed relatives, the 3000 (B400) and 4000 (B500) series transmissions. With some additional plumbing and a solenoid to activate it, the 1000/2000/2400 series transmissions work just fine as six speeds. That change (along with several others) is currently undergoing development work.
Silver Bullet, no more OD lockout switch. What's the latest hot technology that several different manufacturers have introduced for shifting an automatic like a manual?
SoCalDMAX
08-22-2003, 15:18
Up/down paddle or section on the shifter?
Regards, Steve
DuramaxDicko
08-22-2003, 16:01
Originally posted by Tsckey:
It would be interesting to have an ultra-overdrive top gear for unloaded cruising. It is embarrassing somehow that my wife's Honda Odyssey has a higher net final drive ratio than my truck :(
TC Don't tell me she has got a white one?
I have a red truck D/A and the wife has the White '01 Odyssey... she also has a '83 white king cab 4X4 nissan
license plate on her ody is 2K1 ODY ;)
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