Six Hundred Horsepower

[More Power]

The record-setting Pikes Peak Duramax racer has been promoted as having up to 600 HP.

There's one way to find out...

http://www.TheDieselPage.com/features/project2.htm

More Power!!!

[SoCalDMAX]

Oh, isn't that just great! I'm running around town with my 380hp thinkin' "I'm bad, I'm nationwide" then you tell me there's a 600hp Dmax out there?

When should we be on the lookout for it? How exactly does one make that much power, besides just slapping a monster turbo on it? How was the tranny modified to handle the power? I can't wait to see the article! And the truck! http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Regards, Steve

[Diesel Dog]

You have GOT to be kidding me... 600HP. Cummon guys, don't do this to me. I can't afford this habit.. I'm already chomping to get a D-Max to replace my 6.5L, but even a stock one is going to bust the budget.. Now you talk of 600 HP when I'm still trying to eeek out a few more HP from my 6.5L... We need a Diesels Annonymous forum here to treat our addictions.. before it ruins us all.
Hi, I'm Diesel Dog, and I'm a Dieselaholic....

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1994 Chev K2500 6.5L TD Suburban. Banks exhaust, Kennedy FSD. 129,000 miles
1995 Chev K2500 6.5L TD X-cab, LB. Kennedy FSD, Kennedy Cooling Mods. 105,000 miles
1988 K20 6.2L N/A Suburban for sale in classified section. http://www.thedieselpage.com/classad.htm

[SoCalDMAX]

Hi,

My name is Steve, and I was up to a quart a day of Diesel Treat...

[Allison Jettester]

Thanks for sharing

[hunter98]

My name is Hunter, and I am also a Dieselhollic! Getting up in the morning and fireing her up can be more exciting than ____! Driving several hours to go to another state to buy cheap fuel, when the tank is 7/8 full to start with. I am a diesel hollic. Driving to the mailbox or any other excuse to start her up. I am a diesel hollic. Wishing I could afford another one I am a diesel hollic.

Hunter http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif

And a happy one at that!

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2 :D :D 2 GMC SLE Ext Cab SB 4x4 Pewter/Graphite
Duramax/Allison/Eaton
Kelly AWR 255x85R16,
GM bedrail caps and folding cupholder, Husky Floormats
Westin CPS Nerf Bars

http://www.picturetrail.com/hunter98

[D-max Man]

My name is C.J.

I just got back from running some errands in the company D-Max 2500HD. (Still looking like http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif).

I drove my VW Jetta Diesel to work (Where I work on the D-Max Project) and will drive it home and park it next to my 3500 Chevy Dually 6.5TD.

I still don't know why people think I am a DIESELHOLLIC!



[This message has been edited by D-max Man (edited 01-24-2002).]

[zsqure]

Hi, my name is Jim and I am a dieselholic. I love the smell of diesel fumes, there,s nothing better than the smell of a REAL truck engine. In my barnyard there are five cats (3126, 3176, 3406) three macks (EM6, EM7) two detroits (60 Series) four cummins (L10, 5.9) one navistar (DT466) and the best one of them all, a duramax 6.6. Oh yea just for kicks I like to fire up the silver 92 in my loader at 3am to load the salt trucks. After listening to one of those for 20 minutes the silence is deafening, come to thing of it that has a lopey idle too.

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'02 2500HD LS 4X4 D/A E/C S/B
BOSS 8'2" V Plow
CB for telling the rookies how to do it.
GoRhino wheel-to-wheel stainless nerf bars.

[hunter98]

I think we need a support group! http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif

Or maybee that is what this is!

Hunter http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif

Of course aren't support groups supposed to wean you away from the problem, IE weight, smoking, alcohol, drugs, ect.



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2 :D :D 2 GMC SLE Ext Cab SB 4x4 Pewter/Graphite
Duramax/Allison/Eaton
Kelly AWR 255x85R16,
GM bedrail caps and folding cupholder, Husky Floormats
Westin CPS Nerf Bars

http://www.picturetrail.com/hunter98

[fred]

you can use my 2002 3500 cc d/a truck to put that combo in

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2- 2002, 3500 cc duramax/allisions lt 1-black 1- red

[hoot]

zsqure,

Thanks for sharing that with us.

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Mike (dmax) DP Member #2429
2001 2500HD GMC Duramax/Allison Summit White CC/SB Loaded
Amsoil Air Filter, Straight Piped PIC (http://uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/exhaust/jvn03.jpg)
PS2K Propane, 22 Gal. LP Tank PIC (http://onramp.uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/propane/bigtank1.jpg)
Allison Deep Pan, Transynd Syn ATF PIC (http://uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/allison/allis10.jpg)
SPA DG-111 Boost/EGT, Nordskog Digital Fuel Level PIC (http://uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/allison/allis11.jpg)
VentShades, Husky Mudflaps, 255/85-R16 Dunlop Radial Rover RV's
Kennedy Headlight Booster Kit TRUCK PICTURES CLICK HERE (http://onramp.uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc)
1994 K1500 Blazer 350 Loaded, Flowmaster duals

[NorCalDMAX]

Hi I am Jeff....I too, am a DIESEL-ALHOLIC.
To be honest with you..I really like driving my truck more than my Race car. I have more fun rolling into the Motorplex's and cruising through the pits towing my trailer.

I am concerned I am going to wash the paint off it, I already have numerous coats of wax on it. I lay on the ground and just look up underneath and say WOW. I hate all the synthetic oils as it stops me from having something to do on it. I look at this page everyday and want to add stuff to it. I asked my wife if she would stitch a Duramax Logo into my pillow...LMAO....
I fall a sleep reading the manual...and the best yet, is when I see another owner coming towards me and we WAVE at each other...I met another GM psycho.....

I have been looking for this support group..DAA.(Diesel Alholic Anonmyous)

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Jeff

2001 Chevrolet K3500 4x4 LS
Duramax/Allison
Crew Cab
Long Bed
Victory Red
Light Grey Leather with Bench front
G80 Rearend

E-mail: DuramaxDually@onebox.com

Homepage. www.j-line-racing.cityslide.com (http://www.j-line-racing.cityslide.com)

[DieselEnvy]

Jim,
The suspense is driving me nuts!

[PEANUTGRWR]

THIS AINT FAIR DAMMIT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS UP WITH THIS THIS 600 HP BS---------HOW CAN I BE LIKE MIKE?????!!!!!!??????!!!!!!

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'01 CHEVY D/A REG CAB 4X4
BULLY DOG PROPANE INJECTION.
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=peanutgrwr
AUTO-METER GUAGES & POD
B-D DYNOMITE BOX
HUSKY FLOOR MATS
AMSOIL AIR FILTER
5 INCH EXHAUST!!!!
MY AIR BOX LOOKS LIKE SWISS CHEESE :)
DONT MESS WITH THE DURAMAX ON CRACK!!!:)

[LA DMAX]

I don't know if this is exactly right but last May I went to that GM drive it deal where they had lots of GM cars and trucks along with competitors vehicles you can drive. There was also a guy giving a talk about the Dmax and torque and HP and gear ratio.... After his talk I went to have my own chat with him about the Dmax, we got to talking and he mentioned the Pike's Peak truck and 600 HP. I asked how they got it and he said they ported and done some other things to the heads, boosted the turbo and done some fuel management things. I don't know about the tranny. This guy owned a Dmax and was part of some racing team. I guess we will see soon, right Jim?
Laters

LA DMAX

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2002 GMC 2500HD SLT 4X4 DMAX/ALLI CC/SB G80, loaded. Pewter/Pewter
Add ons: Line-x, Star shield, catch alls.

[NickLeinonen]

fun fun fun! banks is kinda doing something similar with their 5.9 commonrail cummins 6spd in a dakota. they claim 600hp/1000lb-ft

http://www.bankspower.com/banks_sidewinder.html

[Lawnboy]

Hey guys.
I was at this years DP Rendezvous. Part of it was at the DMAX LTD engine plant. This is where I, SAW, LISTENED TO RUN, SAW MOVED (slowly!), SAT IN, AND VIRTUALLY CRAWLED ALL AROUND this race truck! Quite a cool little truck! It is all operated by hand control, as the driver that drove it, has lost the use of his legs. Only problem was, the parking brake was modified and relocated to the pillar (rollbar) where most of you guys mount your gauges. He used this to start a "slide" around corners. Well anyway, there must have been a glitch with the relocation process, and somehow, the trucks parking brakes were locked up solid! Hence when Dr. Lee got in it to move it, it would barely move unless it was really romped on. BELIEVE me, it sounded REAL healthy!

Now, put that in a 1/2 ton short wheelbase pickup on the street.....WATCH OUT!!



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Thomas J. McCauley Jr.
Tommy's Lawn Service
Member # 5589
1990 K3500 SRW Ext.Cab Long Bed 454/400 3.73
1975 K20 Suburban 350/350 4.10's
Tows 16' Landscape Trailer
BOSS 8'2" V-Plow
7-11 MPG !!!
Duramax here I come!!

[More Power]

Spose we'll get an invite to attend a Dodge meet where they have a 1/4-mile track?

MP

[gvt]

The competition has begun!

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'97 K1500 6.5L

[Tough Guy]

Sounds like a cummins may be a worthy competitor....for now.

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300HP 6.5L Intercooled Turbo Diesel
0-60 under 9.0 sec.
Member #136
18 MPG

[More Power]

http://www.thedieselpage.com/images/SteveOpikespeak.jpg

Who is this guy?

MP

[Tractor]

MORE POWER.
That guy in the 600 H.P Pikes Peak truck with the 4L80E I think is from Mooresville N.C. Down the road from Earnhardt Mr. Steve Overcash.

[CUMINNTSTRKN]

jim

i will be racing in anaconda all season. come on over and we will see how the 2 stack up against each other.

jim

[acidburn]

Hi my name is Gary and, I WANT TO BE A DEISAHOLIC!!! BADLY.
I cant wait for the "Beast" to arrive, because:
YOU GUYS ARE HAVIN WAYYYY TOO MUCH FUN!!!
nc-dmax,
We already have three guys in my area, looks like were gonna be coming after you low hp380 kinda guys in SoCal, WE will be NationaWide, ZZ-Topin.
You guys are kill'in me over here in this third world toilet!!! http://www.plauder-smilies.com/coolman.gif


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ETA: 1/ 02
GMC Sierra/ 2500HD/4wd/ SLE, Ex-Cab/ Short Bx, D/A, pewter, charcoal leather, all possible options except the snow plow front end. ??Dual alternators???
To do list: Camper shell, tires, loose back seat install storage and speaks, hmmm power upgrades, diffs, ???
$1K over factory invoice from the greatest dealership in the world,
Davis GMC, Davis Ca, see Wayne(Joe's gone). Great dealership, very nice folks to deal with.

[xwing]

If somebody is really "getting" this truck and engine, I hope whoever gets it either can themselves, or allows somebody else to, try to download the computer programs for the engine and transmission.

IF we can carry our engines' shift point from 3100 to 3800, even if we make the SAME torque, we increase HORSEPOWER by 22% because hp = torque x rpm.

Our shift points are way too low for max power; my dumb old Suburban 6.5 Banks turbodiesel pulled hardest from 2500-3600 and shifted at 3800 so no way this 4 valve head techno monster can't beat THAT old thing!

I am really disappointed that the aftermarket hasn't even attempted to increase shiftpoint rpm's at maximum throttle yet. That is WAY overdue!
If they only change the max throttle shiftpoints, then lower throttle drivability etc don't suffer and don't require a total new program, just the max throttle datapoints.

[INDI-GO]

Will there be a support grouo for wives. Mine is a Dmax aholic and needs help with her being friendly with Ford and Dodge diesel owners.

I try and explain that it is ok to wave but she MUST wave all FIVE fingers.

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D/A, LS, CC, 4x4, LB

[Tough Guy]

Who's cool truck is in that picture in the upper right?

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300HP 6.5L Intercooled Turbo Diesel
0-60 under 9.0 sec.
Member #136
18 MPG

[CleviteKid]

And who's classic truck is peeking around the roll-bar support just behind the cab?

By the way, who BUILT your cool truck for you, Tough Guy? I did mine myself.



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1984 C-10 6.2L N-A
Truck Info (http://dis.dieselpage.com/readrig/c3.htm)
Weld AL wheels from my truck for sale: HERE (http://www.thedieselpage.com/classad.htm#parts)

[Lawnboy]

And I believe thats Kennedy's truck between you two guys keeping that stinkin' turbo from jumpin' into your Miami machine!!! http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/eek.gif

BTW, for those who sat in the Pikes Peak truck....remember how tight fitting that seat was?!!



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Thomas J. McCauley Jr.
Tommy's Lawn Service
Member # 5589
1990 K3500 SRW Ext.Cab Long Bed 454/400 3.73
1975 K20 Suburban 350/350 4.10's
Tows 16' Landscape Trailer
BOSS 8'2" V-Plow
7-11 MPG !!!
Duramax here I come!!

[Tough Guy]

Okay Smart Guy, My truck was manufactured by GMC..........

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300HP 6.5L Intercooled Turbo Diesel
0-60 under 9.0 sec.
Member #136
18 MPG

[CleviteKid]

Tough Guy: 1
Clevite Kid: 0

I will quit while I am only one point behind.

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1984 C-10 6.2L N-A
Truck Info (http://dis.dieselpage.com/readrig/c3.htm)
Weld AL wheels from my truck for sale: HERE (http://www.thedieselpage.com/classad.htm#parts)

[hoot]

Who remanufactured it Tough Guy http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Mike (dmax) DP Member #2429
2001 2500HD GMC Duramax/Allison Summit White CC/SB Loaded
Amsoil Air Filter, Straight Piped PIC (http://uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/exhaust/jvn03.jpg)
PS2K Propane, 22 Gal. LP Tank PIC (http://onramp.uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/propane/bigtank1.jpg)
Allison Deep Pan, Transynd Syn ATF PIC (http://uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/allison/allis10.jpg)
SPA DG-111 Boost/EGT, Nordskog Digital Fuel Level PIC (http://uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/allison/allis11.jpg)
VentShades, Husky Mudflaps, 255/85-R16 Dunlop Radial Rover RV's
Kennedy Headlight Booster Kit TRUCK PICTURES CLICK HERE (http://onramp.uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc)
1994 K1500 Blazer 350 Loaded, Flowmaster duals

[SteveO]

Yep, that was me.. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Tough Guy,

Clevite Kid did get to drive the truck around the DMAX yard.. Soo the score is

Tough Guy: 1
Clevite Kid: 1*

*Disclaimer: He was the ONLY one small enough to work the controls... http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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2001 Chevrolet 2500HD 4x4, Crew Cab LB, LT, LB7-Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000 Series,
Autometer Boost/EGT Gauges,
Husky Floor liners, Vent Shades,
285/75-16 Brigestone Dueler AT's
B&W Turnover Ball
The Diesel Page member #330

[Tough Guy]

There is discussion on other forums that perhaps the 600hp Dmax isn't capable of outperforming the Cummins projects.....Discuss.

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300HP 6.5L Intercooled Turbo Diesel
0-60 under 9.0 sec.
Member #136
18 MPG

[SoCalDMAX]

There are other forums??

Is this where we could find more info on the aluminum head problems that all of the Dmaxes are having?

Did they put iron heads on the 600hp Dmax? I don't see any other way it could possibly hold up to that kind of power. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Sorry, it's Fri. and I'm feelin' a little frisky. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif

http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gifSteve http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[More Power]

A new picture added!

See: http://www.thedieselpage.com/features/project2.htm

MP

[LA DMAX]

Wow Jim, looks a little different than mine. Will you let us know the modifications to the engine and trans? Thanks.

LA DMAX

[Breck]

Anybody ever come across Joseph Donnelley

[MNBowTie]

More Power,

One question: What is the plan for traction and drive train?

[hoot]

Breck,

What kind of torque on that Dodge?

[Breck]

Not sure Hoot, but I would probably guess around 1200'ish+ ft/lbs. Most make around 2.2-2.6 ft/lbs per HP.

Never met him, but he does a lot of writting for the TDR and had a nice article about his truck in the last issue.

I believe he is a chem. engineer: With no "ties" to the big three.

There are others out there with 6BTA's that make more power (800+HP), but I don't believe they are daily drivers like his.

[More Power]

MNBowTie,

Two schools of thought currently exist on the drivetrain. One says to remove all of the 4by stuff to make the truck lighter (<~4000-lbs), and then run a Ford 9" 3.70 rear with appropriately wide 31" tires.

The second group says that a 4x4 would do better... That's why the tx-fer case was included with the Allison... Just in case....

The Dodges make great power, but I wonder about the narrow rpm range (3800 vs 4800-5000 of the Duramax). This can make a big difference in gearing requirements and rear-wheel power in the higher gears, that are necessary to reach target speed.

MP

[kickinasphalt383]

FORD 9" NOOOOOOOOOOOO

that is wrong on so many levels

14-bolt, 14-bolt, or 14-bolt smile.gif

[Animal]

The TQ is over 1200.

[More Power]

Kickin,

I've spoken to a number of people involved in drag racing, on some level. I get two responses when asking about rear differentials... Either the Ford 9" or a Corporate GM 14-bolt. The 14-bolt is stronger, but is also a lot heavier. Still undecided.....

Regarding HP & TQ... Banks' web site lists their Cummins project at 600 hp and 1000 lb-ft. This being a long-stroke six, I would expect the TQ to be higher than a V-8, at the same HP level. But, it's not 1200......

MP

[grape]

What class is Banks going to run out in Bonneville and if so, is it strictly a diesel class. Or is the class just a pick-up class, just curious, might have some fun in the off season.

[More Power]

I haven't kept up on the Bonneville classes, but Banks' Cummins (and all diesel pickups) will run in the "compression ignition" engine classes. I've heard that a couple new classes have been added because of the rise in diesel pickup popularity.

MP

[saynotoford]

Have there been any updates on installing the new engine? Have you made a decision yet on whether or not to keep or take out the 4 wheel drive? I think that it is interesting that there is a Duramax project truck and a couple of Cummins projects going on, but I haven't heard of any sort of Powerstroke drag racer. Thanks

[ 04-09-2002: Message edited by: saynotoford ]</p>

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Sayno...

Here's an update showing the engine installed in the truck. Getting close.....

http://www.thedieselpage.com/features/project2-4.htm

MP

[hoot]

WOW Jim,

Great stuff coming down the pike. Looks like you in fact are sticking with the Allison! I guess Allison wants the lime light?

We will be looking forward to seeing what it will take to keep this project together!!!!