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glamisboy
08-08-2003, 18:56
When will GM release the specs & prices for the '04's ??? Any body heard what we can expect ??

My '02 was totaled in an accident, since the bow-tie saved my life I will be buying another. I figure by the time all the hasles with the insurance company(s) are through, the '04's will be on the lot.

Also, any good dealers here out west ??? We live in So-Cal. Our soon to be previous governor :mad: smile.gif was nice enough to triple our reg fees :mad: . So, we will most likely buy the new bow-tie out of state and register it there. We are leaning towards Texas. Any help would be appreciated.
56Nomad
08-08-2003, 22:08
glamisboy,

Nomad is another CA boy who did not like
paying those fees......

Nor did I want a cat converter..... first and
only in CA for 2002

Bought the truck in Texas

There are not many legal ways to get out of
paying the lic and tax if you live in the new
state of Schwarzenegger..... but it can be
done* :D

*http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub52.pdf

[ 08-08-2003, 10:25 PM: Message edited by: 56Nomad ]
koolgt
08-09-2003, 01:28
i think most the specs are a page or so back..production date is no later than Dec 18 on the 04 but give it another month to make it through the truck plant
Trip
08-09-2003, 04:45
If you do get stuck w/CA, go talk to Marvin K. Brown in San Diego. We searched from Vegas to CA and they gave us the best deal and turned out to be very respectable. Ask for Jennifer Brown, who is granddaughter of the founder.
mtomac
08-09-2003, 07:03
there are 04 Duramax/Allisons on the lot around MI, but they also build them here. Paperwork, specs, brochures shouldn't be too far behind at the dealers.
bobojay
08-09-2003, 08:38
Prices are online at KellyBlueBook.com
glamisboy
08-09-2003, 10:16
I heard rumors GM is going to "tweak" some things on the D-Max to get us back on top for '04. I wondered if anyone was aware of the definants.
koolgt
08-09-2003, 13:49
Originally posted by glamisboy:
I heard rumors GM is going to "tweak" some things on the D-Max to get us back on top for '04. I wondered if anyone was aware of the definants. tons of new stuff on the 04..also there is no 04 durmax diesel on the lot yet..there may be an 04 3/4 ton, but we have not produced any 04 duramax's yet, and wouldnt be till december
mtomac
08-09-2003, 14:12
the D/A truck I saw had an 04 window sticker on it, the option packages and prices were even slightly different. I'm guessing the early 04' model year Duramax trucks have '03 built engines in them
jbplock
08-09-2003, 17:58
The following quote from the latest (August) GM Techlink (http://service.gm.com/gmtechlink/images/issues/cnt_mo/TLcme.html#story9) gives a hint about the 04 Dmax changes...

"The interim 2004 Duramax 6600 diesel engine (RPO LLY) becomes available January 2004. Though similar to the current production Duramax 6600, this engine offers some significant differences. The GM Service Technical College (STC) will offer an updated Diesel Engine Performance course to reflect the changes. Refreshed and updated CBT, IDL, and Hands-on course components will be released successively beginning April 2004..."
dmaxalliTech
08-09-2003, 19:38
I guess I will be going for some more school on these.. I am current on whats available now, Crap, now we have to wait until at least Dec before we get this info. :mad: As you all know already, I will have this video worn out by the time most of you will know its been released. I will also be one of the first ones through the new IDL and hands on course.

koolgt--email me please
56Nomad
08-10-2003, 18:36
2004 GM Powertrain Truck Engines

http://www.media.holden.com.au/division/powertrain/products/engine/truckengines/04_truck_specs.html#lb7
k30
08-10-2003, 18:38
Its been established that there will be substantial changes to the injection setup, turbo and various other parts for mid 04'. So how about some hp and torque ratings. So far nobody has come up with anything as far as that goes. Also does anybody know if there will be any changes made to allison?
k30
08-11-2003, 00:00
oh, by the way the engine refered to on the link posted by 56nomad is the early 04' spec duramax(LB7). The revised duramax will go under the code LLY I believe and those are the ratings that I am in search of.
koolgt
08-11-2003, 13:05
Originally posted by k30:
oh, by the way the engine refered to on the link posted by 56nomad is the early 04' spec duramax(LB7). The revised duramax will go under the code LLY I believe and those are the ratings that I am in search of. i can try to find out the HP and torque ratings tonight
sonofagun
08-11-2003, 14:00
koolgt,

I have an'04 3500 on order and I got my build date today - 08/24/03. It will obviously have the LB7 engine so I miss the new stuff, INCLUDING the smog junk.

I may have to look into an aftermarket (factory) garrett variable vane turbo once they get up and running. Jim's article on the DMAX Suburban suggests that parts are available on a bit by bit basis from the manufacturer (if I can figure out how to do that). Can't do much about the heads and reworked injectors so I'll go with my planned extra fuel filter system and try to keep the fuel as clean as possible. I'll match or beat the power increases with a level 2 juice and be a happy camper.

Bob
mike.morris
08-11-2003, 14:59
I talked to a guy this past weekend that has an '04 gasser. I took a look at the truck, and it looked really sharp. This was a LS CC short bed. The truck has most if not all of the same features our '03s have. Still no lights under the hood :confused: Instrument cluster and interior layout are the same. He did tell me that the sales guy said that the fender flares are painted to match for the '04. I find that hard to believe, but not much surprises me anymore.
k30
08-12-2003, 21:02
So how bout it koolgt, any news?
Escapee
08-12-2003, 21:38
Originally posted by son of a gun:
koolgt,

I have an'04 3500 on order and I got my build date today - 08/24/03. It will obviously have the LB7 engine so I miss the new stuff, INCLUDING the smog junk.

I may have to look into an aftermarket (factory) garrett variable vane turbo once they get up and running. Jim's article on the DMAX Suburban suggests that parts are available on a bit by bit basis from the manufacturer (if I can figure out how to do that). Can't do much about the heads and reworked injectors so I'll go with my planned extra fuel filter system and try to keep the fuel as clean as possible. I'll match or beat the power increases with a level 2 juice and be a happy camper.

Bob
koolgt
08-13-2003, 10:23
Originally posted by k30:
So how bout it koolgt, any news? no sorry havent got a chance, but i thank all u for picking up sales:) this week we started 9 hours, next week we start our 50 hour weeks all the way into december:) no one really knows exact numbers but im working on it
hoot
08-18-2003, 21:39
Picked up this tidbit on PUTC. It's very recent but not sure of the reliability of the source.


I got word today while at the local GM dealership that the mid-year 2004 will see an increase in tq/hp for the duramax 6600. Hp 350 / 3200rpms & Tq 565lbs / 1800rpms.
Burner
08-18-2003, 22:14
Hoot,

Would that be 287HP to the ground? How much does the 6.0 PowerJoker put down?


Burner----> :D
koolgt
08-19-2003, 03:28
Originally posted by hoot:
Picked up this tidbit on PUTC. It's very recent but not sure of the reliability of the source.

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> I got word today while at the local GM dealership that the mid-year 2004 will see an increase in tq/hp for the duramax 6600. Hp 350 / 3200rpms & Tq 565lbs / 1800rpms.

</font>[/QUOTE]I agree almost 100% what u hear was correct, other than ur HP is too much...the 04 duramax is rated at 320HP and 565ft/lbs torque, but we all know GM under rates everything.. and my source is very reliable :D
hoot
08-19-2003, 06:10
Originally posted by Burner:
Hoot,

Would that be 287HP to the ground? How much does the 6.0 PowerJoker put down?


Burner----&gt; :D I don't know.
k30
08-19-2003, 08:42
I must say I'm a little dissapointed. Even though the improvements to the 04' dmax will be worth while I was really hoping for GM to knock ford off the top.At 320 hp its still 5 hp short of the problem prone 6.0L. I still believe that GM builds a superior product but I was really hoping for 350 hp like it was stated earlier. Oh well I suppose givin its lighter wieght its will probably still outperform the 6.0L.
dmaxalliTech
08-19-2003, 09:50
Originally posted by k30:
I must say I'm a little dissapointed. Even though the improvements to the 04' dmax will be worth while I was really hoping for GM to knock ford off the top.At 320 hp its still 5 hp short of the problem prone 6.0L. I still believe that GM builds a superior product but I was really hoping for 350 hp like it was stated earlier. Oh well I suppose givin its lighter wieght its will probably still outperform the 6.0L. You think your gonna feel it? I suppose they could exasperate there numbers a little to make it look good. We still have the Allison though to put the power down, Furd dont...