4x4 Oil Changes Made Less Messy

[TurboDiverArt]

Hi All,

I don

[Dvldog 8793]

I always thought this would help lubricate my front u-joints! :D tongue.gif
what really bothers me is when I get the oil runiing down inside my shirt sleeve! :mad:
L8r
Conley

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by Dvldog 8793:
I always thought this would help lubricate my front u-joints! :D tongue.gif
what really bothers me is when I get the oil runiing down inside my shirt sleeve! :mad:
L8r
Conley Yeah, really hate that too! I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that oil on the Universal rubber probably isn't helping it...

[rapidoxidationman]

ditto with dvldog!!!
rapid

[Kollin Syverson]

I have always used aluminum foil, as you can roll dams on each side so the oil can only run towards the pan.

[Keith Richards]

good to see a really simple,really great idea.I'll go for that next time.

[rjschoolcraft]

I've always wanted to get my hands on the engineer who was responsible for that design. After I had choked him sufficiently, I would make him change my oil for a year, then see if he came up with any better ideas! :mad: ;)

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by ronniejoe:
I've always wanted to get my hands on the engineer who was responsible for that design. After I had choked him sufficiently, I would make him change my oil for a year, then see if he came up with any better ideas! :mad: ;) Just make sure he's changing it in the dead of winter, outside without a lift. Maybe in the freezing rain would be nice! After the first time I was seriously considering installing some type of remote oil filter.

Art.

[Dave C]

I took an empty plastic 1 quart gear oil bottle, cut the top and bottom off, then slit the side. It wraps aroung the u-joint nicely and is re-usable. :D
I also use it when I change the oil in my two daughters' Pontiac Sunfires. Without the plastic cover the oil from the filters would run down on the exhaust pipe where there's a course wire mess that would absorb the oil and then smoke like crazy when driven. :mad: MTCW

[Turbine Doc]

After same mess as described above, and previous owner over tightening old filt and no room to get a good grip on filt.; I went with remote bypass mount, life is much simpler after that. If you only have budget for one mod this year I highly recommend this one.

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by tbogemirep:
After same mess as described above, and previous owner over tightening old filt and no room to get a good grip on filt.; I went with remote bypass mount, life is much simpler after that. If you only have budget for one mod this year I highly recommend this one. Did it come as a kit? Where did you buy it and how much did it cost?

[rjwest]

There are several KITS, but a good dual bypass
oil filter shoul;d have BIG fittings.
I used PERMA COOL parts, You can call and they
will give you part numbers, or internet.

I used a kit but had te order adapter with
bigger fittings ( to prevent oil pressure drop)

The Hoses are best made yourself,
The whole project will run about 100-125 US..

REAL EASY TO CHANGE OIL, and can pre fill filters...

[Aryeh Levy]

rjwest -
looking through old posts.

PERMA COOL looks so amazing. I never wanted to spend $300 for amsoil.

http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page27.html
you bought 10713??

This is my next project. I HATE the stock oil filter!

Just gotta find out what you did to prevent oil pressure loss.

[Hubert]

I don't think that's the best perma cool setup. I think there is another post that covers all the part no.'s needed.

The light truck kit has 3/8 NPT thread (small ID) There are other pieces that have 1/2 NPT.

I did the permacool 2 remote filter setup and its ok.

Drawback to permacool is its 2 filters in parallel so it does not really filter oil twice. It does increase capacity and since it is in parallel it would be easier flow (it will take pass of least resistance or thru cleaner filter?).

[rjwest]

I think filters in series will drop to much oil pressure...

Perma cool has the BIG adapter and BIG dual filter
mount, need to call them for part numbers,
Should run around 90 us $

I would not reccomend KIT ( small fittings ), to much oil pressure drop. Also I used baynonet fittings, as the Hose flare also restricts diameter of lines..

There are Perma cool filter mounts in 3/4 and 13/16 ( like GM )filter attach threads . I used the 3/4, ( ford ). should have used the 13/16,

Did loose about 2-5 psi drop depending on oil temps.

I run 4-5 k miles on oil change ( 9 qts )
Oil reports are good ( slightly better than normal )
Much easier to chage oil, and can fill filters with oil before installing.

Not making a product reccomendations, just what I have done...

[Hansh]

I run the Amsoil Dual Bypass kit. The kit comes with the hoses, you cut to length and install fittings, and filter adapter. Easy to do. I have mine installed on the left fender, but lots of hoses with the cooler. Also allows for an extra quart of oil. I have gone 25,000 miles on last engine between oil changes, with analysis in between. That makes for a lot less mess!

A trick I use in my boat for changing the filter is to loosen it, then wrap a plastic bag around the fitler to catch the oil.

[ 09-15-2005, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: HH ]

[Aryeh Levy]

I'd prefer to go the $90 kit rather than the Am$oil

[rjwest]

I mounted my filters below the driver seat
, bolts trough the floor.
Hardest part was getting hoses down past exhaust pipe. ( ikept the 4x4 adapter )

Used 90 deg fittings at the filter adapter.
And flexable heat shield to cover the hoses by the exhaust. So far hoses are in good condition,
did use high quality hose ( not typical auto parts )
The 90 $ is perma cool parts, does not include
hoses,clamps,fittings, and fuel running around.

The complete kit is probably close to what
you will spend on parts..

[JohnC]

Originally posted by rjwest:
( ikept the 4x4 adapter )the best of both worlds, huh?

;)

[Ratau]

My 280 DT Isuzu's Filter sits vertical but up side down so when I open the drain plug I also punch a hole into the filter, it drains empty so no mess when screwed off.

This may work for the horizontal filters if a 1/4 " hole is knocked at the lowest point off the filter.

[rjwest]

John C Yup, I figured if I ever have a problem on the road with my " sometimes less than perfect "
Enginering, I could swap my spare GM filter on,
That plus the extra gallon of oil i carry,

not to mention the spare alt , starter,
belts, idler, fuel shut off, Many PMD's
and other assorted parts, Plus tools,

Need a 1 ton just for the maintenance support,

BUT, I don't have a spare, !!!!

[tom.mcinerney]

Strongly recommend to anyone contemplating remoting the filter--see the CantonRacingProducts
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/ adapters.
It uses a square-crosssection oring, doesn't require 90*fittings, is fine billet .
If go Perma-Cool, use their heavy-duty.

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by tom mac 95:
Strongly recommend to anyone contemplating remoting the filter--see the CantonRacingProducts
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/ adapters.
It uses a square-crosssection oring, doesn't require 90*fittings, is fine billet .
If go Perma-Cool, use their heavy-duty. I would second the Canton stuff. I know a number of racing guys that use their remote filters. I'm considering switching to their external pressure regulator for my racecar as mine only really works properly when set to full flow. Below that it's erratic. Anyway, point is they make great stuff.

Art.

[stingthieves]

Would you please share the part numbers that you used? Kind Regards, Rick

[ace58]

I ordered an Amsoil unit but their fittings and lines were small. I ordered an adapter from Summit racing, for the spin on filter, and got the fittings and lines at a local hydraulic equipment supplier.

I mounted the filter horizontally under the drivers seat for easy access.

[stingthieves]

Thanks Ace! What filter spins onto your adaptor? Does it have an anti frain back valve or need it?
Rick

[Low_Bridge]

I have trouble gettin the thing off in the original location. It's time to change the oil again! Last time I Rambo'd it with a big screwdriver to get it off! What a mess!

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by Bill D'Addio:
I have trouble gettin the thing off in the original location. It's time to change the oil again! Last time I Rambo'd it with a big screwdriver to get it off! What a mess! Just get an oil filter wrench with a flexible handle. Allows you to twist the handle 90-degrees. There is plenty of room to loosen it I think. If you still have trouble you may be tightening it too much. It's not getting to it that's a problem for me, it's the mess it makes and few seconds the engine runs before you get oil-pressure.

Art.

[Aryeh Levy]

I just bought the dual oil filter adapter, spin on adapter, and some 500 degree workking, 1200 burst stainless brain lines (15') from summit. $160 for everything. I'm excited - they actually have their parts in stock, while truckperformance had em on backorder. not usually a biggie, but it's getting cold (mechaniccing + cold hands = pain)

Mostly because my stock oil cooler lines are leaking, and i hate to contaminate millions of gallons of water. Got the oil lines from lube specialist.

= Horray! Oil system will be like 3 gallons once i get the oilguard remote system set up.